(LAUGHS). It just got in shelves. Jason's cloak can be examined in many ways. And that was a wound to him. Danez Smith: Hm. And yeah, yeah, like Franny said, we’ll have news and updates coming in the New Year about VS and about many other exciting things. It’s nice to be fans of this genre and to be fans of the work that everybody’s making. All this stuff is moving around in there. Which I hope is what we’re also doing in our country for kids growing up now. Naomi Shihab Nye: Oooo. And he refused to be cast as an enemy of Jewish people. We were out in the yard and somehow ghosts came up because it was a little foggy. And Grace used to say that she looked at politics as simply the way human beings treat one another. He would have questions instantly for any person that he had just met. Behind the scenes, we normally, in the before time, were doing like four or five interviews in a weekend. Ibsen's last work When We Dead Awaken also contains examples of ekphrasis as the play's protagonist, Arnold Rubek, is a sculptor who several times throughout the play describes his masterpiece "Resurrection Day" at length and in the many different forms the sculpture took throughout the stages of its creation. And I don’t know if that’s the answer to this question, but for me, that feels like maybe just a charge towards what you were saying. It is the same with written words; they seem to talk All Books in New Releases. Yeah, where do you think that dies for a lot of us? And I feel—my heart goes out to all the students. We are so excited for y’all and us—shit, too, we were geeks—to spend this last episode of the season with literal legend Naomi Shihab Nye. It was such a different season, Franny, you know, we didn’t have to travel. ): Grant F. Scott: "Ekphrasis and the Picture Gallery", in, Grant F. Scott: "Copied with a Difference: Ekphrasis in William Carlos Williams'. In his analogy, one bedness form shares its own bedness – with all its shortcomings – with that of the ideal form, or template. Danez Smith: (LAUGHS) Oh, god. I do eat eggs. Franny Choi: You also put it into scare quotes. May we all find, still, the goodness that we hope we can find in the classroom in these Zoom meetings and shit. I would say when people become too self-conscious to welcome it. Danez Smith: Two. The UK variant is spreading rapidly and was detected in more than 50% of cases in recent weeks in Ireland. You can’t use the time excuse, because you do have that time. Take care of yourselves. Read online books for free new release and bestseller And so, I feel insulted on behalf of Jerusalem. Naomi Shihab Nye: Yeah. I wonder if we should pivot now to talking about The Tiny Journalist. You know, trying to imagine more what it was like for my father all those years being homesick for a world that you never get to live in in the same way again. Under his sway, Dorian bemoans the fact that his youth will soon fade. Hence the difficulty of modern poetry; and it is because of this difficulty that one cannot remember more than two consecutive lines of any good modern poet. It may also be one art describing or depicting another work of art which as yet is still in an inchoate state of creation, in that the work described may still be resting in the imagination of the artist before he has begun his creative work. Danez Smith: It’s a book you couldn’t have written in anybody else’s voice, almost. Naomi Shihab Nye: It’s like the vitamin that helps you right away. Valerie Robillard and Els Jongeneel (eds. The Cloak of Jason is another example of ekphrastic poetry. And people would often say something a little bit like casting him as an outsider or a strange person. Though this is the major instance of ekphrasis in the novel, and the one which has the most thematic importance to the story as a whole, other instances can be spotted when Prince Myshkin sees a painting of Swiss landscape that reminds him of a view he saw while at a sanatorium in Switzerland, and also when he first sees the face of his love interest, Nastasya, in the form of a painted portrait. But for now, just know that there’s more VS in your future. So back to that question of when we lose that poet self, that poet joy with language, I think many times it’s when we become too dutiful. So, bad stuff was always happening in her vicinity and she would just say, “Ah, they don’t know our stories.” You know, in Arabic. So let’s just go with your question. And he never ran out of questions. But there were those crossovers of attentive curiosity, and what’s another way to look at this story? Danez Smith: For the refreshment of language. (LAUGHS), Naomi Shihab Nye: Yeah, yeah. to you as if they were intelligent, but if you ask them anything I didn’t ever imagine writing poems in his voice, but since I was using his actual lines as titles in that book, the poems came out in his voice. And I opened to “Tattoo” from The Tiny Journalist. So I hope that little me would feel a little freer reading the stuff now. “What can we plant today?” And he notices everything about—you know, I moved a plant last week from the front bed to the back bed because it didn’t seem happy in the front. Danez Smith: Well, thank you for making it. And he was constantly trying to work with that and write stories that would bring both peoples in as deserving of respect, humanity, dignity. Danez Smith: Oh no. [17], While Jason only wears the cloak while going to meet with Hypsipyle, it foreshadows the changes that Jason will potentially undergo during his adventure. Franny Choi: Hmm. Naomi Shihab Nye: But I think that’s what—I don’t know, I think it’s what our job is as poets, to try to keep finding a way to engage with them in our poems, whether the political poems or the walking down the street, easy poems. How can you treat a grandma that way? Okay, ninth grade, fresh into poetry, still is excited to get a journal for Christmas Danez—. Thank you, United States journalists, world journalists, for all the insight you have given us into the madness of the years we have been living through. Very sweet though. Naomi Shihab Nye: Oh, gin and tonic, thank you. Oh, that’s so kind of you to say. I’m not sure I’m going to say her name right: Forough Farrokhzad from Iran. Naomi Shihab Nye: Without a doubt, I’m calling it for the kid! Naomi Shihab Nye: From all the stuff they used to do. A descriptive work of prose or poetry, a film, or even a photograph may thus highlight through its rhetorical vividness what is happening, or what is shown in, say, any of the visual arts, and in doing so, may enhance the original art and so take on a life of its own through its brilliant description. In this novel, the protagonist, Prince Myshkin, sees a painting of a dead Christ in the house of Rogozhin that has a profound effect on him. Seems like so fun. “Like a mountain when you sit on it.” I need…. The poet Gabriele Tinti has composed a series of poems for ancient works of art including the Boxer at Rest, the Discobolus, Arundel Head, the Ludovisi Gaul, the Victorious Youth,[10] the Farnese Hercules, the Hercules by Scopas,[11] the Elgin marbles from the Parthenon, the Barberini Faun, the Doryphoros and many other masterpieces. You know, people make all kinds of comments about resistances to poetry, like, “But look at the world! She has more than 10 years' experience as an agribusiness and agriculture journalist and has worked at The Weekly Times since 2012. Franny Choi: And so I think that there’s like, for me, it’s just like a constant back and forth between those things. Merwin’s thank you poems, which have-were written as litanies of gratitude to the world. Danez Smith: Mmm. I love those things. Danez Smith: She’s the notorious Suji Kwock Lil’ Kim, Franny Choi. And it’s something that I hope that we keep doing in future seasons. Danez Smith: Hm. 162–163. Tamar Yacobi, "The Ekphrastic Figure of Speech," in Martin Heusser et al. Naomi Shihab Nye: So many. It feels … I’m about to cry right now, but like, to like, I don’t know, I’m grateful to this show right now, I guess, because we get to have these interactions with our legends. He is also takes up a spear given to him by Atalanta, not as an afterthought, but due to his heroic nature and the comparison between himself and Achilles. In Renaissance Italy, Canto 33 of Ariosto's Orlando Furioso describes a picture gallery created by Merlin. Franny, that’s such a good question. Naomi Shihab Nye: I’m the one with two stars. How does The Tiny Journalist for you, I guess, then feel more political than some of the other work you’ve done, and—. I’ve been like yeah, really grateful to my family, to the women in my family. Franny Choi: Doing OK. You know, here we are at the end of so much. Franny Choi: Your most—well, I guess not your most recent collection. Earlier in the epic, when Aeneas travels to Carthage, he sees the temple of the city, and on it are great works of art that are described by the poet using the ekphrastic style. But also, feeling as if you can stand back from the story a little bit and talk about it, hopefully from a perspective that’s wider than your own rage and grief. Franny Choi: Yeah, I’ve been thinking about this writing about the separation of the Koreas, and the kind of like intensity of that, of the border between North and South Korea. And everyone did such an amazing job. I learned very young that it was much easier to be hopeful than not. Teen & Young Adult. And there are so many benches and stone walls and little grassy slopes and wild places where you could take a book and read it. For instance, the distorted faces in a crowd in a painting depicting an original work of art, a sullen countenance on the face of a sculpture representing a historical figure, or a film showing particularly dark aspects of neo-Gothic architecture, are all examples of ekphrasis. I liked listening, that’s how it felt to listen to you and Cam. Journalistic art criticism was effectively invented by Denis Diderot in his long pieces on the works in the Paris Salon, and extended and highly pointed accounts of the major exhibitions of new art became a popular seasonal feature in the journalism of most Western countries. That interview, like, so many brilliant folks blessed us both on the page and on the mic this year. Naomi Shihab Nye: So I wondered if there was that sort of transferal of empathy and connection that made these Texas judges say, “Hey, let’s pay attention to this.”. Ask people to do the exercise in teams of three rather than pairs, which increases the brain-power available, but also the potential for confusion, and also the size of the paper ring necessary to fit over three people rather than two. Ekphrasis seems to have been less common in France during these periods. She even sent me the most gorgeous little video where she’s hugging the book. Forward the Foundation. Franny Choi: Yeah. Danez Smith: But I think another moment that I really loved, personally, when I was thinking back on 2020 and even what I’ve read this year and truly loved, and so many of our guests released such brilliant books, but like I was sitting with Aricka Foreman’s book Salt Body Shimmer for a little bit the other day. Franny Choi: There was a big question earlier this year about whether we would continue being able to make this show for various reasons, actually not having to do with Covid, but more having to do with uprisings for racial justice happening all over the country. Naomi Shihab Nye: —but it’s like this run-on sentence. Otherland: River of Blue Fire. And so I feel like it’s sort of getting richer, right? Danez Smith: That was such a blessed moment. ), This page was last edited on 21 December 2020, at 07:28. The difference in the descriptions of the two shields are easily discernible; the shield of Achilles depicts many subjects, whereas the shield made for Aeneas depicts the future that Rome will have, containing propaganda in favor of the Emperor Augustus. I don’t know, that seems to be what your poems have been moved by for so long. The word comes from the Greek ἐκ ek and φράσις phrásis, 'out' and 'speak' respectively, and the verb ἐκφράζειν ekphrázein, "to proclaim or call an inanimate object by name". (LAUGHS). Naomi Shihab Nye: What’s moving me these days? In Spain, Lope de Vega often used allusions and descriptions of Italian art in his plays, and included the painter Titian as one of his characters. Make sure you take a social media break if you fucking need to. Oh my god. Reading kind of flows into your brain. Naomi Shihab Nye: And the kid brain for me will always carry us someplace true. What’s moving you these days? What is that like? You know? Yeah, I think that for me, it’s been reading poems outside of very contemporary American poems. 41. Writers on art for a wider audience produced many descriptions with great literary as well as art historical merit; in English John Ruskin, both the most important journalistic critic and popularizer of historic art of his day, and Walter Pater, above all for his famous evocation of the Mona Lisa, are among the most notable. Naomi Shihab Nye: Take it away. The kid wins! She took definition as her province and challenged the existing definitions of poetry and the poet’s work. Is like, that frustration means, I think, you have to find the many doors and windows into it, right. Naomi Shihab Nye: Optimist on board. Danez Smith: (LAUGHS) My grandma’s smacking me on the back of the head right now. Naomi Shihab Nye: If you didn’t have a new book waiting for you, that’s when you were poor. Yeah, I always felt just what you’re saying about people like Nazim Hikmet. Franny Choi: Best place to read a book in San Antonio. "[2] More generally, an ekphrastic poem is a poem inspired or stimulated by a work of art. They’re not even kids, they’re full grown adults, but they’re my kids. He wasn’t even too ironic. He commences with the original form of a bed, one of a variety of ways a bed may have been constructed by a craftsman and compares that form with an ideal form of a bed, of a perfect archetype or image in the form of which beds ought to be made, in short, the epitome of bedness. My father, the Palestinian in our family, the full Palestinian, was a very hopeful man. Ekphrastic poetry flourished in the Romantic era and again among the pre-Raphaelite poets. (eds.). The ekphrasic writings of the lawyer turned bishop Asterius of Amasea (fl. Once again the evolution of the sculpture as described in the play can be read as a reflection on the transformation undergone by Rubek himself and even as a statement on the progression Ibsen's own plays took as many scholars have read this final play (stated by Ibsen himself to be an 'epilogue') as the playwright's reflection on his own work as an artist. For Plato (and Aristotle), it is not so much the form of each bed that defines bedness:[3] as the mimetic stages at which beds may be viewed that defines bedness. The shield contains images representative of the Cosmos and the inevitable fate of the city of Troy. You don’t even have to think in terms of poems. You have so much stuff, too. Download free books in PDF format. How are you doing, girl? She has embraced the book, I’m happy to tell you. The word ekphrasis, or ecphrasis, comes from the Greek for the description of a work of art produced as a rhetorical exercise,[1] often used in the adjectival form ekphrastic. And so I have been thinking, like, let me actually take my time as I type this paragraph text to a friend and think about what I can do in here, and like, how I can like, you know, be particular for them, and particular for us. (LAUGHS). This is because ekphrasis typically contains an element of competition with the art it describes, aiming to demonstrate the superior ability of words to "paint a picture". I sort of like forget that there are no limits to the things that we can say and sometimes I feel like it takes somebody who wrote like a hundred years ago to remind me that I can say anything. Danez Smith: Alright. And we’ll have some more information about what that will actually look like at the top of the New Year. Danez Smith: I mean that you have to write it as many ways as possible, right. I’m going with The Tiny Journalist, because I really like the word “tiny.”. And there’s a lot of other episodes that you can check out. Prelude to Foundation. Danez Smith: Is that in the world yet? Danez Smith: Word. “It’s been such a great life decision for me. I have been taking more time with like, places where I just sort of take language for granted, like in emails and texts and stuff like that. There’s always felt like a way through, like there’s a light, with difficulty, with violence, with reality. No, just kidding. Wayward Son (Spanish Edition) ... Poetry. Find them.” I mean, that was like my breakfast fun. According to the Poetry Foundation, "an ekphrastic poem is a vivid description of a scene or, more commonly, a work of art. And you know, I feel duty bound to remain hopeful for them. Bush gave the reins to MIC bureaucrats and Republican business lobbyist lifers. In the Odyssey, there is also a scene where Odysseus, disguised as a beggar, must prove to his wife, Penelope, that he has proof that Odysseus is still alive. And that peacefulness of sitting by the water just, it’s so wonderful. Munsterberg, Marjorie, Writing About Art: Milner, Joseph O'Beirne, and Lucy Floyd Morcock Milner. Naomi Shihab Nye: I like that, I like that. Just thank you for continuing to write, to look at the world, to challenge it, to find goodness within it. That such a great interview, talking about tininess and tiny things. Because you know what it feels like to be oppressed. Danez Smith: Are you kidding, this is like having Beyoncé on here. And he just had that spirit all his life. “We’re pretty observant, more than some, less than others. Danez Smith: That’s the real wealth right there. Naomi Shihab Nye: Of course, as we know from time and our own experiences, that kind of magical metaphor in many people’s lives is a short-lived, magical period. It is a vivid, often dramatic, verbal description of a visual work of art, either real or imagined. And you used the word “transfer.” I did write a book called Transfer for my father after he died, which is also, I would say, my other most political book, in some way. That’s so interesting.”. It was pretty segregated when I grew up there. Let’s go! And I was just like, wow, I really love this book. Danez Smith: It was an important year, I think, for us, you know, to question or revisit why we do this thing that we love and what it means to do it within the institution and that we do it within. Naomi Shihab Nye: Because adults, we’re too distracted, we let all this stuff in, we’re overwhelmed with knickknacks in the brain. Danez Smith: (LAUGHS) And make sure that you like, rate, and subscribe wherever you may listen to podcasts. Upper Saddle River: Prentice, 1999. pp. Why is a red, lowering sky in the morning a sign of rain, and a brilliant red sky at night, of fair weather? The editor in chief of Quarantine Vogue, danez, I knew the man the. 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